Beta Version 12.4.5 Available for Testing on July 18th, 2023

I’ve tried to implement synchronized scrolling. It’s an option that can be turned on in the Collection Settings. The current implementation is far from perfect, but perhaps better than nothing for some use cases…?

Interested in hearing feedback about this.

(BTW, it’s been a while, partly because the implementation turned out to be not at all straightforward, but also because I’ve been on a bit of a summer vacation for the last couple of weeks…)

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Just started kicking the tires but do notice the elevator is misleading in Edit. Seems to always be at the top when returning from Display even if the end of some long text is displayed.

Not sure how I might set a location in Display to sync with Edit. Scroll position, I guess. Setting an insertion point in Edit should set the scroll position in Display to the same location. I’ll try that.

Did enable the option in Settings, BTW.

More later…

I’m not sure what you mean by “elevator”.

Just to clarify, I am not doing anything with the edit insertion point.

When the scrolling sync is turned on, I try to match the scroll position when going from Display to Edit, and vice-versa.

But what’s this “elevator” thing…?

OK, I can see that now after relaunching Notenik with the option enabled in that Collection. I hadn’t before. The scroll position is roughly approximate (I can find the same text in both windows if a little higher or lower).

This may be good enough for getting from Display to Edit because Display has no insertion point. I’m not sure it’s precise enough for going from Edit’s insertion point to Display (I have to hunt around to see the effect of what I was formatting).

But I’ll keep at it to see if I can train my brain to how it works!

Elevator (draggable gray bubble showing scroll position), which goes up and comes down:



Thanks very much for implementing the feature. It’s working well so far.

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Works perfectly on my machine and doesn’t seem to cause any problems with my relatively unorthodox display template.

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@hbowie, I saw @mrpasini’s use of elevator, and I immediately thought “Yes! That’s what it was called back in Apple’s original Human Interface Guidelines way back in the day!

I wasn’t quite right, but almost:

— Apple Computer, Inc., Human Interface Guidelines: The Apple Desktop Interface (1987), p. 105

Other than these parenthetical glosses, the UI element seems always to be called a scroll box, which is probably clearer — but much less cool, IMHO.

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Wow! Good research! And good memory! I’m not sure I had ever run across the term being used in that way before! But now I won’t be able to forget it!

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I seem also to recall it being called a trolly car; perhaps that was in the Lightspeed Pascal (→ THINK Pascal) docs? I can’t find any reference to it now. :person_shrugging:t3:

I can see how someone would come up with that, since it’s typically a long object that runs back and forth on a fixed track. (But again, a new one on me.)